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Re: could you be a brain in a vat?



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Oh, my latest brain related target is Frank Jackson's Epiphenominal Qualia!

I'll get a debate going on that.

D

"David Saitch" <philosophy@saitch.net> wrote:

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> Oh my giddy aunt!
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> Well, obviously I agree that Putnam failed to prove the case.
> 
> (Interestigly I have been asked to present a revised version of my paper at
a
> Birkbeck conference next month)
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> He fails to close a logical loop and all he really shows is that the brain
in
> the vat couldn't know it was a brain in a vat. So he's rather foolishly
given
> the sceptic some ammo.
> 
> As to whether we could be, well, I don't think so, but sadly I can't prove
it
> yet.
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> Edward Grefenstette <pha04eg@sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:
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> > I found their argumentation to hold more water than the vats Putnam  
> > dreams of, to use David's imagery. However while I find Hillary  
> > Putnam's position is, as it is, hard to defend. The question of 'to  
> > what extent it is wrong' is what is philosophically interesting, in  
> > my opinion. Perhaps that's what we should be putting up for debate?
> > 
> > -- Edward.
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> > On 12 Oct 2005, at 12/10/200515:40, Alice Evans wrote:
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> > > ** For Your Eyes Only **
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> > > yes, that was their conclusion.
> > > i was wondering if anyone dissented from that opinion, both method  
> > > and final product
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